Oh Jenny, Don’t Be Hasty
A friend of mine today posted a bulletin via MySpace on a big controversial topic: abortion. I try to steer clear of controversy, but after reading this entry, I felt it was necessary to respond.
As a man, I really don’t have a view one way or another on abortion. I feel that since I will never be able to bear children inside my body, I really don’t have any say as to what a woman can do with hers. If I were to ever have intercourse with a woman and impregnate her, I would consider my sperm leaving my body and entering hers as a gift, with the child that is created being a product of that gift (after all, we do call it the “gift of life” don’t we?). I don’t tell people what to do with my Christmas gifts after I give them out, so why should I tell a woman what she can do with my gifted sperm?
Nonetheless, you’ll still have people throwing religion and moral rhetoric in the direction of those who are pro-choice. Okay, here’s a solution: If we, as men and politicians (who mostly are men), have the right to tell a woman what she can do with her life-giving body part, I think women should have the right to tell us what to do with our life-giving body part. That’s right—men control the uterus, women control the testicles. In fact, if abortion is made illegal, I think it should be made illegal that men cannot masturbate or therein use their testicles until the age of thirty-five. After this law is passed, I guarantee you’ll see abortions, teen pregnancies and unwed couples go down, as well as sexually transmitted diseases.
I also guarantee that a lot more Republicans would probably change their mind on abortion.
In my past life, I was a tree or something. If not a tree, something that grew old and didn't move very much. I'm pretty convinced of this.
July 22nd, 2007 at 2:01 pm
Nobody is for abortion after a certain point in the pregnancy.
Even Margaret Sanger would not advocate abortion at 8 1/2 months.
Pro Lifer’s just argue that life begins earlier than some others do.
I believe that the point where life begins is at conception.
You don’t have to be a woman to want to save the life of a baby.
July 22nd, 2007 at 2:10 pm
I think you missed my point, Mr Bradley.
July 22nd, 2007 at 3:53 pm
I love this idea, personally.
Though this post allows me to ask my question that I ponder over a lot … according to these religious folks who feel that abortion (and masturbation, in the case of super-Catholics) is murder, where do they think all the fetus and dead sperm souls go? Is there just a massive tank in heaven or what?
July 22nd, 2007 at 7:44 pm
I take your point as Men should have no say in what women do with their own bodies. I think I get that.
There is an inevitable point at which society decides that the baby is no longer part of a womans body, but it is a member of society that deserves protection.
That point is sometime before natural childbirth. I choose to pick the point of conception. You may choose some later point, but that is a difficult milepost to mark.
July 22nd, 2007 at 8:14 pm
I’m pretty sure the cord makes the fetus a part of the woman’s body and not detached.
If society told you what you could do with your garage, wouldn’t you be pissed off? I mean, granted the garage is another building, but is it not attached to your house?
July 22nd, 2007 at 8:28 pm
Even though the fetus is attached, a mother is not allowed to kill an eighth month term baby. No where No how.
Society does tell me what I can do with my garage.
No problem here.
I live in a society and I abide by it’s rules.
July 23rd, 2007 at 12:39 am
Well, some would argue that a life is formed at time of conception. I think that a life is born before it even enters the mother. So that means that masturbation should be a crime, along with abortion! Now, let’s see how many Republicans will go along with that.
July 24th, 2007 at 10:47 pm
I’ll join in on the argument no one will win despite no one inviting me!
I’ll put it this way … who should be valued more: a sack of cells that may die from natural causes anyway, but if it did live may not live as good of a life as it could under a different circumstance because 1) no one was prepared to care for it (don’t give that crap of “there’s time to prepare when she’s pregnant” because it’s too much stress and again, could cause the sack of cells to die of a natural cause) and/or 2) it’s an unwanted, unloved child (and yes, parents can treat their children like this … talk to my own mother.*) OR a grown woman with a full life ahead of her and the potential to better care for her children in the future when given the ability to plan it and want it?
*Yes, I understand the hypocrisy to this … the implication of “my mother should have been aborted for her own good!” but it’s obviously not what I meant. Meanwhile, my mother has had several abortions and were it not for those abortions, I would have had a considerably shittier childhood if my mom had even lived long enough to get around to having me.
July 27th, 2007 at 3:55 pm
I’ve always said that those without a uterus should keep their mouths shut on the issue. Too many cranky old white guys are spending way too much time worrying about what people are putting into or taking out of their bodies when they should be focusing on the murder of people of whom their existence as human life can not be argued.
My personal thought if I were to offer one, would be that as long as the fetus is unable to survive outside of the womb, it’s solely the choice of the mother. (Then again, I think if a woman makes the decision not to abort in a case where the father wants no child, he should not be financially responsible… but that’s an argument for a different day.)
Oh how I wish we could leave religion out of intelligent political discussions.
August 1st, 2007 at 9:43 pm
6 years old
5 years old …
2 years old
6 months old…
5 Days old…
1 Hour old
Birth
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
1 Hour Before birth
1 Day Before birth…
1 month before birth…
At what point does a fetus become a person.
I can’t say for sure, but I believe that it is quite a bit below the dotted line.
Do Abortion Advocates really choose childbirth as the line?
I don’t think so. They choose a gray area somewhere around 3 months prior to birth.
I can’t support that. That’s why I choose the point of conception.
August 1st, 2007 at 10:20 pm
You know, when I posted this blog entry, I did it with an original idea in mind (at least one that I thought to be original) to bring to the table of the Great Abortion Debate that is still going on in our generation. However, a lot of these comments are just reverberating old ideas and thoughts that have been expressed time and time before. So I ask you, if you’re going to comment, don’t echo the words of other people because they’ve already been said and no progress is being made either way. Instead, offer a few morsels of originality. Thanks.
August 2nd, 2007 at 6:25 pm
All of the comments that I have posted are my own.
I thought that they were original.
However, I am sure that others have expressed similar views in the past, so it may appear that I was repeating old ideas.
I just thought that you would like to know the reasons why I think the way that I do.
No offense was ever intended.
Good luck.
August 2nd, 2007 at 9:07 pm
It wasn’t really directed just at you. It just seems like I’m hearing the same “Childhood starts at conception” and “It’s a woman’s right to choose” argument over and over again.